{"id":64,"date":"2010-12-08T06:35:04","date_gmt":"2010-12-08T06:35:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/?p=64"},"modified":"2010-12-09T03:53:52","modified_gmt":"2010-12-09T03:53:52","slug":"give-us-a-king","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/?p=64","title":{"rendered":"Give Us a King"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the Bible class I&#8217;m taking, we were asked to compare translations of the I Samuel passage (chapters 8-12) where Saul is first anointed as king by Samuel.\u00a0 The looked at the Jewish Study Bible (the newer Jewish Publication Society (JPS), along with Everett Fox&#8217;s translation of I and II Samuel (from &#8220;Give Us a King&#8221;) and Robert Alter&#8217;s (&#8220;The David Story&#8221;).<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_65\" style=\"width: 207px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/King_Saul_Stamp.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-65\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-65\" title=\"King_Saul_Stamp\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/King_Saul_Stamp-197x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/King_Saul_Stamp-197x300.png 197w, https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/King_Saul_Stamp.png 341w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-65\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">King Saul Postage Stamp - Photograph by Karen Horton<\/p><\/div>\n<p>It&#8217;s a fairly spell-binding narrative that I haven&#8217;t read in a while.<\/p>\n<p>1.\u00a0 It reminded me of a pattern on saw on HBO&#8217;s &#8220;The Tutors&#8221;.\u00a0 The king would promote someone to a duke or some high position, they would have a party, &#8230; then the king would say something like &#8220;Now I need a little favor from you&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; which could be almost anything &#8211; and typically not something pleasant for the new nobleman.\u00a0\u00a0 Saul, immediately on his kingship (or pseudo-kingship) is immediately faced with a challenge &#8211; Nahash (I like the way Fox says &#8220;Nahash\/Snake&#8221; &#8211; even though I know Nahash means &#8220;snake&#8221;, it doesn&#8217;t always come to mind when reading English and people&#8217;s names).<\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0 It struck me that Saul seems almost like a puppet in this passage.\u00a0 Other than being tall (and goodly &#8211; whatever that might connote), he doesn&#8217;t show any heroic or great traits.\u00a0\u00a0 He is sent by his father on an errand, he can&#8217;t find the she-asses, even his servant has the idea to go see the &#8220;seer&#8221;, and then has to offer to pay the shekel to the prophet Samuel.\u00a0 Then, boom, Saul gets a super-dose of God&#8217;s spirit, and now he is king, chasing out enemies and making wise decisions &#8211; overnight, with no training.\u00a0 Even though he doesn&#8217;t have the woman difficulties of Samson, Saul reminds me of him, with &#8220;the Spirit of God&#8221; coming on each of them, to accomplish miraculous fetes.<\/p>\n<p>3.\u00a0 The end of the &#8220;Give us a King&#8221; passage really stresses how bad it was for the people to ask for a king, but never really explicitly says why, only implicitly.\u00a0 We are told upon their first request all the things that a king will do (that the people probably won&#8217;t like).\u00a0 But Samuel never seemed to came out and say that Israel was supposed to be a theocracy, or that it was God&#8217;s plan to work only through judges..\u00a0 12:11 implies that the four rescue-ers were doing a fine job (despite the evil in Samuel&#8217;s children).<\/p>\n<p>4.\u00a0 11:11-14 seem to be pivotal verses &#8211; about the people wanting to put-to-death those that wanted a king.\u00a0\u00a0 It&#8217;s almost like they new what was coming in Chapter 12.\u00a0 11:11 was a little confusing, I had to read it several times in several versions to actually see who won and who lost, because the way it connects to 11:12 might imply that Israel lost.\u00a0 Vs 11 uses unclear antecedents &#8211; &#8220;they&#8221; were left &#8211; &#8220;they&#8221; were scattered.\u00a0 Alter&#8217;s footnote helped.\u00a0 [He says that the word &#8220;not&#8221; appears in some variant manuscripts, he translates as &#8220;Whoever said, &#8220;Saul shall not be king over us&#8230;&#8221;.\u00a0 Alter says &#8220;The report of continuous dissidence about Saul&#8217;s claim to the throne, as at the end of the previous chapter, in fact sets the stage for much that will follow.&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>After posting the above to my online forum, two day&#8217;s later I read all of Alter&#8217;s translation.<\/p>\n<p>If a new translation was published, I think there are several keywords that one would open to see how they handled it:<br \/>\na) the rant\/prophetic ecstacy (Fox in 10:5 says &#8220;and they will be ranting-in-prophecy&#8221;, Alter says &#8220;they will be speaking in ecstacy&#8221;).<br \/>\nb) what the spirit did to Saul &#8211; seized, surged, gripped (VA-TITZLACHAH &#8211; same root-word as &#8220;success&#8221; &#8211; HATZLICHAH)<br \/>\nc)\u00a0 I like the way Alter said &#8220;he pretended to keep his peace&#8221; in\u00a0 10:27.\u00a0 It might be stretching or flavoring the text, but I think it gave it a good feel vs the rather bland &#8220;He was like a silent one.&#8221; (K&#8217;MACHARISH)<br \/>\nd) the &#8220;troublemakers&#8221;, scoundrels, children of Belial (KJV treated it as a proper noun?), certain-base-fellows (I Sam 10:27)<br \/>\ne) and what happened to Saul&#8217;s heart &#8211; Alter &#8211; &#8220;God gave him another heart&#8221;, Fox &#8211;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_66\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/New_Heart.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-66\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-66 \" title=\"New_Heart\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/New_Heart-300x286.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"286\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/New_Heart-300x286.png 300w, https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/New_Heart.png 417w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-66\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">New Heart - Photograph by Monazza Talha<\/p><\/div>\n<p>&#8220;Changed him another heart&#8221; (VA-YAHAFACH&#8230; LEV ACHER).\u00a0 In more recent Hebrew, HAFACH can mean opposite, no? Maybe turn inside out or upside down?\u00a0 In 10:6 Samuel prophesied that Saul would be &#8220;turned into another man&#8221; (same root verb).<\/p>\n<p>f) the offerings in the final verse vary from &#8220;fellowship offerings&#8221; (JSB), &#8220;slaughter offerings of shalom&#8221; (Fox), and &#8220;communion sacrifices&#8221; (Alter).<\/p>\n<p>I prefer the indentation used by Fox, but I really appreciated the footnotes (almost 2 to 1 ratio) that Alter included.<\/p>\n<p>As a kid, I remember the story about Saul hiding in &#8220;the baggage&#8221;, which to me was associated with &#8220;luggage&#8221; and thus &#8220;suitcases&#8221; (I must have pictured sort of a train station with lots of suitcases piled up.)\u00a0 Thus, I much prefer the translation to &#8220;gear&#8221; than to &#8220;baggage&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Alter&#8217;s footnote on 12:21 caught my eye about &#8220;serve&#8221;\/&#8221;LO TASURU&#8221; &#8211; he said it was a Deuteronomistic word.\u00a0\u00a0 My mind immediately jumped to the third paragraph of the SHEMA &#8211; &#8220;LO TASURU\/TATURU ACHEREI L&#8217;VAVCHEM&#8221; (Numbers 15:39) &#8211; don&#8217;t explore\/spy after your hearts (same word used as when the 12 spies went to &#8220;explore\/spy&#8221; the land of Canaan).\u00a0 But this is an undotted TAV (Sephardic say TATURU but Ashkenaz say &#8220;TASURU&#8221;), so it&#8217;s actually a different word [a Hebrew homophone, like &#8220;bear&#8221; and &#8220;bare&#8221; in English, pronounced the same, but different spelling and meanings] &#8211; but could have been another potential wordplay.\u00a0 The word is translated &#8220;swerve&#8221; by Alter; it&#8217;s the word &#8220;TASURU&#8221; from the verb &#8220;SUR&#8221;, which starts with the Hebrew letter &#8220;Samech&#8221;, and means any of the following: turn-aside, go-away, leave, fall away, keep-far, avoid, stop, cease.\u00a0 It indeed occurs 15 times in Deut, 3 in Numbers, 10 in Leviticus, and even 11 times in Genesis.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the Bible class I&#8217;m taking, we were asked to compare translations of the I Samuel passage (chapters 8-12) where Saul is first anointed as king by Samuel.\u00a0 The looked at the Jewish Study Bible (the newer Jewish Publication Society &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/?p=64\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":0,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[26],"tags":[28,27],"class_list":["post-64","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-book-of-samuel","tag-king-saul","tag-samuel"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=64"}],"version-history":[{"count":15,"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":68,"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/64\/revisions\/68"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=64"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=64"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mrhebrew.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=64"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}